Comments on: A FEW THOUGHTS ON BILLY, THE KID http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/ Ramble's about this and that Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:33:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Adam http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8507 Adam Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:35:44 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8507 So he didn´t write that book? OK, but the novel writter wasn´t even there so everthing that was said how Billy died came from Garret´s mouth.... am I right? Garret had a reputation of being a coward and had a criminal past so the possibility that he lied about Billy having a gun in his hands is big. He,(Garret) , said that Billy didn´t die immeditaly. It took him 1 to 2 minutes to die so if Billy did have a gun, why didn´t he shoot Garret the second he was shot and/or after he was hit? He was famous for his gun handeling so the chance of holding a gun in that room is for me zero. It´s not heroic to shoot a guy who only carries a knife and Garret knew that ofcourse so he probably lied about the gun. My opinion in this matter is not so unrealistic.... I started to belive this theory when visited aboutbillythekid.com The woman that the sites belongs to wrote som really good points about his death and I couldn´t agree more. O So he didn´t write that book? OK, but the novel writter wasn´t even there so everthing that was said how Billy died came from Garret´s mouth…. am I right? Garret had a reputation of being a coward and had a criminal past so the possibility that he lied about Billy having a gun in his hands is big.

He,(Garret) , said that Billy didn´t die immeditaly. It took him 1 to 2 minutes to die so if Billy did have a gun, why didn´t he shoot Garret the second he was shot and/or after he was hit? He was famous for his gun handeling so the chance of holding a gun in that room is for me zero.

It´s not heroic to shoot a guy who only carries a knife and Garret knew that ofcourse so he probably lied about the gun.

My opinion in this matter is not so unrealistic….

I started to belive this theory when visited aboutbillythekid.com
The woman that the sites belongs to wrote som really good points about his death and I couldn´t agree more.

O

]]> By: ramblingbob http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8506 ramblingbob Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:12:15 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8506 Garret really did not write the book it was ghost written by a penny-dreadful novel writer and Garret only lent his name for a profit and the fame afforded by assoiation with the book and incedent. If yoyuhave studdided Garrets life post bBlly he had a long and eventful life, usually ending in failures after being taken advantage of. He had big visions, just not the means to follow through he was naive ,but not stupid. You keep refering to "Experts" but I have read a lot and have more than a few books on the old west. you are the first "only a knife theory I have encountered. once again what are your sources? I have books with photos of a pistol supposed to have been found with Billy that night. As for not shooting Garret, the room was supposted to have been dark, and he was ill stand by my six books until you can show me these reputable experts you refer to.asking Maxwell who was in the room with him when Garret shot him. More than one researcher has stated these findings. Garret really did not write the book it was ghost written by a penny-dreadful novel writer and Garret only lent his name for a profit and the fame afforded by assoiation with the book and incedent. If yoyuhave studdided Garrets life post bBlly he had a long and eventful life, usually ending in failures after being taken advantage of. He had big visions, just not the means to follow through he was naive ,but not stupid. You keep refering to “Experts” but I have read a lot and have more than a few books on the old west. you are the first “only a knife theory I have encountered. once again what are your sources? I have books with photos of a pistol supposed to have been found with Billy that night. As for not shooting Garret, the room was supposted to have been dark, and he was ill stand by my six books until you can show me these reputable experts you refer to.asking Maxwell who was in the room with him when Garret shot him. More than one researcher has stated these findings.

]]> By: Adam http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8505 Adam Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:13:20 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8505 I´m not an expert but I do know that Garret exaggerated in the book just to make him look good.And make Billy the devil. Don´t you think that "paranoid" Billy would´ve killed GArret first if he had a gun? He was among friends so maybe he thought he didn´t needed the gun when he was out for meat. The most experts belive in the "only the knife" theory. I´m not an expert but I do know that Garret exaggerated in the book just to make him look good.And make Billy the devil. Don´t you think that “paranoid” Billy would´ve killed GArret first if he had a gun? He was among friends so maybe he thought he didn´t needed the gun when he was out for meat.
The most experts belive in the “only the knife” theory.

]]> By: ramblingbob http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8504 ramblingbob Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:16:37 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8504 Also I think Pete Maxwell had a few things to say about "The Kid's" shooting. and he was present. Also I think Pete Maxwell had a few things to say about “The Kid’s” shooting. and he was present.

]]> By: ramblingbob http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8503 ramblingbob Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:11:14 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8503 I never read Pat Garret's book , just a number of other books I have , What makes you such a expert? you never stated. I do not know where the other people I have read got their information I expect they are as reliable as your informants After all no body but a few others, other than Pat Garret was on hand and each witness had their own agenda years later. It is not important enough to me to call you out on a dusty street to settel the matter . so thanks for you sharp comment. PS do you really think a paranoid individual like Billy would even answer the call of nature without a gun on hand??? I never read Pat Garret’s book , just a number of other books I have , What makes you such a expert? you never stated. I do not know where the other people I have read got their information I expect they are as reliable as your informants After all no body but a few others, other than Pat Garret was on hand and each witness had their own agenda years later. It is not important enough to me to call you out on a dusty street to settel the matter . so thanks for you sharp comment. PS do you really think a paranoid individual like Billy would even answer the call of nature without a gun on hand???

]]> By: Adam http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8502 Adam Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:24:19 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8502 He did NOT have a gun the night he were killed. Do you (ramblingbob) belive in everything Pat Garret wrote in his book? Billy the Kid only had a knife in his hands and was shot down by Garret in the dark. He did NOT have a gun the night he were killed. Do you (ramblingbob) belive in everything Pat Garret wrote in his book? Billy the Kid only had a knife in his hands and was shot down by Garret in the dark.

]]> By: ramblingbob http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8397 ramblingbob Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:46:54 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8397 Billy The, Kid had a butcher knife in one hand and a double action pistol in the other. In on of my boks There is a photo of a small handgun claimed to be the pistol fromthat night. I is in a group of things that belonged to Pat Garret. In my post it is stated he did not fire because he did not know if the person in the dark was a friend or not. Hope this answers your question. Billy The, Kid had a butcher knife in one hand and a double action pistol in the other. In on of my boks There is a photo of a small handgun claimed to be the pistol fromthat night. I is in a group of things that belonged to Pat Garret. In my post it is stated he did not fire because he did not know if the person in the dark was a friend or not. Hope this answers your question.

]]> By: George http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8391 George Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:56:48 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8391 Hi Was Billy carrying a gun the night he was killed ? Your opinion.....? George Canada Hi

Was Billy carrying a gun the night he was killed ? Your opinion…..?

George
Canada

]]> By: ramblingbob http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/a-few-thoughts-on-billythe-kid/#comment-8339 ramblingbob Tue, 27 May 2008 22:50:27 +0000 http://ramblingbob.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-8339 I really don't want to start a new chapter, so here is a little more. Billy was laid out in a over-sized white shirt, and burried in the Fort sumner cemenetry, between the bodies of his two friends, Tom O'Folliard and Charlie Bowdre. Billy's grave is now covered with a concrete slab and surrounded by a chain link fence. Souviner hunters have chipped chunks of the concerete. Does Billy's body realy lie there? Questions are still asked today, floods have ravaged the cemenetry and washed away graves and bodies, and the army moved all they could find to the National Cementry. At least two people later surfaced claiming to be Billy, The Kid, so The Kid remains a enigma still today. I really don’t want to start a new chapter, so here is a little more. Billy was laid out in a over-sized white shirt, and burried in the Fort sumner cemenetry, between the bodies of his two friends, Tom O’Folliard and Charlie Bowdre. Billy’s grave is now covered with a concrete slab and surrounded by a chain link fence. Souviner hunters have chipped chunks of the concerete. Does Billy’s body realy lie there? Questions are still asked today, floods have ravaged the cemenetry and washed away graves and bodies, and the army moved all they could find to the National Cementry. At least two people later surfaced claiming to be Billy, The Kid, so The Kid remains a enigma still today.

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